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I'd love to contribute to Waihekepedia, but firstly i'd like a more concrete statement about what license my content would be covered by/under. This page: Waihekepedia:General disclaimer suggests that you're using the GFDL, but it also seems pretty much the stock page that comes with a MediaWiki install. Will content in Waihekepedia be licensed under the GFDL or could the community also consider using the the CC-By-SA license instead that is used by many similar projects, notably WikiTravel? Personally I think that the CC-BY-SA is more in line with this kind of project and it would be good to think/discuss this in a bit more detail first before too much content is entered. Countrymike 11:08, 31 August 2007 (NZST)

Well Country Mike - we'll obviously have to educate ourselves about the differences between the two licenses.

GFDL

CC by SA ? all I can find out is that it must be some variation of the Creative Commons license

Creative Commons

Can you help clarify this for everyone please ?

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Time for a captcha?[edit]

spam seems to be increasing quite steadily -- which could be read as a somewhat good sign I suppose -- someone's paying attention. Is it time to install a captcha? bruce? anyone against it? it can make getting an account a bit more difficult. Countrymike 20:29, 9 October 2007 (NZDT)

I don't have a problem with a captcha, although there should be a mechanism for blind users to email someone to request an account. However, the spam is low volume so far, so I'm not sure if its a bot or a person.

Given the response times to spam so far, we'd be in real trouble if a bot started pumping out several pages a second. The solution to this would be to have a lawbot watching for excessive edit rates and blocking any such account until an admin can investigate. As far as I know, there is no such feature built in to MediaWiki, but there are such bots running on Wikipedia and we could probably borrow one. However, database structures have changed over the years, and I don't know if a current bot will run correctly on such an old version of MediaWiki.

I'd also kind of prefer to avoid if it's still maintanable. I've seen on wikieducator just how much of a barrier they can be to newbies, so i'd still prefer to not to have to implement if we can avoid it. Countrymike 22:07, 9 October 2007 (NZDT)

Is there any procedure set up to become an admin here? I'd like to be more effective than just blanking spam pages.-Gadfium 21:37, 9 October 2007 (NZDT)

Gadfium: I've made you sysop. I've known Gadfiums work and contributions to Wikipedia for a long time and can vouch for his being added to the Sysop group. Countrymike 22:07, 9 October 2007 (NZDT)

I'm happy to wait for a discussion to take place. I've added a note to my user page on Wikipedia in case there's any doubt that I'm the same editor.-Gadfium 22:13, 9 October 2007 (NZDT)

Hey all - I agree with the captcha as the spam is getting annoying - however I have tried the two extensions available and cant get either of them working - mostly because we are running an older version of Mediawik - it may have to either wait until we upgrade or may requrie someone with more technical expertise with Wikis than me. What I have done in the interim as add a javascript confirm to the registration screen to hopefully stop bots registering - if anyone is getting through that it most likely will be a person = welcome to Gadfium as adminBruced

Unfortunately my admin status was removed after three minutes. I presume that there will be a discussion about me amongst the founders of this site and I'll hear eventually about whether I'm considered suitable. If I can provide any information to help the process, please let me know.-Gadfium 13:41, 10 October 2007 (NZDT)

Yea, mines been removed too... apparently for making Gadfium a sysop but the mysterious User:Operator user has left no real reason why i was desysopped. I'd like to be reinstated if possible. I've had enough recently of community projects being dictated to as if they weren't. Countrymike 13:54, 10 October 2007 (NZDT)

I see Gadfium and CountryMike are back as sysops which is how things should be - saves me having to reinstate them myself - it's a community project people (to anyone listening) - if you've been paying attention to the internet's development you will have noticed that any attempt to censor or dictate usually just results in re-routing to avoid the obstacle. Lets all play nice :-) Bruced 15:43, 11 October 2007 (NZDT)

Self Reliance Initiatives[edit]

seems to me that these should start becoming their own pages with a category (I think one already exists) instead of just congregating here. Countrymike 10:53, 1 February 2010 (NZDT)

I agree.-gadfium 17:39, 1 February 2010 (NZDT)